N. R. Narayana Murthy
Nagavara
Ramarao Narayana Murthybetter known as N. R. Narayana Murthy, is an
Indian businessman and a software engineer. He is the founder and
currently the non-executive Chairman and Chief Mentor of Infosys
Technologies Limited.
Murthy currently serves
as an independent director on the boards of DBS Bank, HSBC and
Unilever. He also serves on the boards of the Ford Foundation, UN
Foundation, Indo-British Partnership, and NDTV.
He is a
present member of the Advisory Boards and Councils of the Stanford
Graduate School of Business, the Corporate Governance initiative at the
Harvard Business School, Indian School of Business, Cornell University
committee on academic affairs and committee on alumni affairs and
development, Yale University and the University of Tokyo’s President's
Council. He is a member of the Board of Directors of INSEAD, Board of
Overseers of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania,
Singapore Management University, Board of Trustees and the Board of
Advisors for the William F. Achtmeyer Center for Global Leadership at
the Tuck School of Business, Asian Institute of Management (AIM), Board
of Members of School of Management at Asian Institute of Technology
(AIT), Asia Business Council and Business Advisory Council of Great
Lakes Institute of Management and International Institute of Information
Technology - Bangalore.
He also
serves as a director of the Central Board of the Reserve Bank of India
and as Co-Chairman of the Plc. He is a member of the Prime Minister of
India's council on trade and industry and is a member of the Asia
Advisory Board of the British Telecommunications.
In August
2004, TIME magazine’s listed him under “Global Tech Influentials” as
one of the ten leaders who are helping shape the future of technology.
In November 2006, TIME magazine again voted him as one of the Asian
heroes who have brought about revolutionary changes in Asia in the
last 60 years.
N. R. Narayana Murthy
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Born
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August 20, 1946 (age 64)
Shidlaghatta, Kolar, Karnataka, India
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Alma mater
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University of Mysore
IIT Kanpur
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Occupation
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Chairman of Infosys Technologies
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Salary
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$50,000 USD (Infosys)
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Net worth
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$2 billion (2011)
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Spouse
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Sudha Murthy
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Children
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2
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Born into a Kannada Madhwa
Brahmin family in Mysore, India on August 20, 1946, in Sidlaghatta near
Muddenahalli (Birth place of Sir M Vishveshwarya), Murthy graduated
with a degree in electrical engineering from the National Institute of
Engineering, University of Mysore in 1967 after attending government
school, and received his master's degree from IIT Kanpur in 1969.
His first
position was at IIM Ahmedabad as chief systems programmer where he
worked on a time-sharing system and designed and implemented a BASIC
interpreter for ECIL (Electronics Corporation of India Limited).
After IIM
Ahmedabad, he then joined Patni Computer Systems in Pune. Before
moving to Mumbai, Murthy met his wife Sudha Murthy in Pune who at the
time was an engineer working at Tata Engineering and Locomotive Co. Ltd.
(Telco, now known as Tata Motors) in Pune. In 1981, with an
investment of Rs.10,000 ($250 at the time) from his wife, he founded
Infosys with six other software professionals. He served as chairman
of the National Association of Software and Service Companies from 1992
to 1994. Mr. Murthy is the brother-in-law of serial entrepreneur
Gururaj "Desh" Deshpande and the uncle of former NASSCOM Chairman and
MphasiS chief Jerry Rao.
Professional career
Murthy
founded Infosys in 1981 in Pune with an initial capital of US $250,
most of which was borrowed from his wife Sudha Murty. At its inception,
he invited six other engineers to join the company. Murthy served as
the founder CEO of Infosys for 21 years, and was succeeded by
co-founder Nandan Nilekani in March 2002. At Infosys he articulated,
designed and implemented the Global Delivery Model which has become
the foundation for the huge success in IT services outsourcing from
India. He also lead the company through several key decisions
including its listing on the Indian stock exchange and the listing on
NASDAQ,.
Murthy
retired from his executive position at Infosys on 20 August 2006.
However, he continues as the Non-Executive Chairman of the board.
Murthy
started a new venture capital fund called Catamaran Venture Fund with
the money he got by selling 800,000 Infosys shares worth 174 Crores.
Sudha Murthy does it again by helping him in setting up his VC Fund by
giving him Rs.430 crores which she got by selling quarter of her
stake 1.6% in Infosys.
Personal life
Narayana Murthy with wife Sudha
His wife, Sudha Murthy née Kulkarni, is
an Indian social worker and accomplished author. She is known for her
philanthropic work through the Infosys Foundation. Her sister,
Jayashree Despande is wife of enterpreneur and founder of US-based
Sycamore Networks, Gururaj Deshpande.
Narayanan Murthy saying ’bout his dear wife…
They have
two children - Rohan and Akshata. Rohan is engaged to Venu Srinivasan's
(of TVS motors) daughter Lakshmi Venu. Akshata Murthy is married to
Rishi Sunak.
N
R Narayana Murthy is the proud father of an entrepreneur in the making
and passionate research student. When he stepped down as executive
chairman of Infosys, Akshata Murty (26) and Rohan Murty (22)
It’s
Bangalore’s wedding of the year—Akshata Murty, the daughter of Infosys
co-founder N.R. Narayana Murthy, and Rishi Sunak, her classmate from
Stanford Business School. The Leela Palace was choc-a-block with the
nattily turned out venerables. The lavish spread was traditional south
Indian amid the coconuts fronds woven with flowers and banana trees that
added the perfect touch to the afternoon.
SHARING EXPERIENCE:
Chief Mentor of Infosys Technologies N.R. Narayana Murthy and his wife
Sudha Murthy, chairperson of Infosys Foundation, with students from
Stanford Graduate School of Business on the Infosys campus in Bangalore.
Awards and honours
Year
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Name
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Awarding organization
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2010
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IEEE Honorary Membership
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Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.
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2010
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Foreign Associate Member
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United States National Academy of Engineering.
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2008
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Padma Vibhushan
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President of India.
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2008
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Officer of the Legion of Honor
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Government of France.
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2007
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Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE)
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Government of United Kingdom.
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2007
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IEEE Ernst Weber Engineering Leadership Recognition
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Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.
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2003
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Asia's Businessmen of the Year
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Fortune magazine.
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2003
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Indo-French Forum Medal
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Indo-French Forum.
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2003
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World Entrepreneur of the Year
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Ernst and Young.
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2001
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Wharton Business School Dean's Medal
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University of Pennsylvania.
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2001
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Max Schmidheiny Liberty Prize
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Switzerland.
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2001
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Nikkei Asia Prize
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Nikkei Inc.
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2000
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Padma Shri
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President of India.
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1998
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Distinguished Alumnus Award
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Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur.
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1996
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JRD Corporate Leadership Award
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All India Management Association (AIMA).
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- 2006:
In May 2006, Narayana Murthy has, for the fifth year running,
emerged the most admired business leader of India in a study conducted
by Brand-comm, a leading Brand Consulting, Advertising and PR firm
- 2005:
In December 2005, Narayana Murthy was voted as the 7th most admired
CEO/Chairman in the world in a global study conducted by
Burson-Marsteller with the Economist Intelligence Unit . The Economist
ranked him 8th among the top 15 most admired global leaders (2005).
He was ranked 28th among the world's most-respected business leaders
by the Financial Times (2005). He topped the Economic Times Corporate
Dossier list of India's most powerful CEOs for two consecutive years
– 2004 and 2005.
- 2001:
He was named by TIME / CNN as one of the twenty-five, most
influential global executives, a group selected for their lasting
influence in creating new industries and reshaping markets.
- 1999:
BusinessWeek named him one of the nine entrepreneurs of the year and
he was also featured in the BusinessWeek's 'The Stars of Asia' (for
three successive years - 1998, 1999 and 2000).
Books
- A Better India, A Better World, Penguin Books, 2009, ISBN 978-0-670-08283-4
Quotes
- “Our assets walk out of the door each evening. We have to make sure that they come back the next morning.”
- “Performance
leads to recognition. Recognition brings respect. Respect enhances
power. Humility and grace in one's moments of power enhances dignity
of an organisation,”
- “The real power of money is the power to give it away.”
- “In God we trust, everybody else bring data to the table.” s
- “Progress is often equal to the difference between mind and mindset.”
- “I
want Infosys to be a place where people of different genders,
nationalities, races and religious beliefs work together in an
environment of intense competition but utmost harmony, courtesy and
dignity to add more and more value to our customers day after day.”
- “A clear conscience is the softest pillow in the world."
- “When in doubt, disclose."
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N. R. Narayana Murthy
Chairman of the Board and Chief Mentor, Infosys Technologies
N.
R. Narayana Murthy is the Founder-Chairman of Infosys Technologies
Limited, a global software consulting company headquartered in
Bangalore, India. He founded Infosys in 1981. Under his leadership,
Infosys was listed on NASDAQ in 1999.
Mr.
Murthy articulated, designed and implemented the Global Delivery
Model which has become the foundation for the huge success in IT
services outsourcing from India. He has led key corporate governance
initiatives in India. He is an IT advisor to several Asian countries.
He
serves on the boards of HSBC, Ford Foundation and the UN Foundation.
He served as a member of the Unilever board between 2007 and 2010. He
also serves on the boards of Cornell University, Wharton School,
Singapore Management University, Indian School of Business, Hyderabad,
International Institute of Information Technology, Bangalore, and
INSEAD.
The
Economist ranked Narayana Murthy among the ten most admired global
business leaders in 2005. He topped the Economic Times list of India’s
most powerful CEOs for three consecutive years: 2004 to 2006. He has
been awarded the Padma Vibhushan by the Government of India, the
Legion d’honneur by the Government of France, and the CBE by the
British government. He is the first Indian winner of Ernst and Young’s
World Entrepreneur of the year award and the Max Schmidheiny Liberty
prize, and has appeared in the rankings of businessmen and innovators
published by India Today, Business Standard, Forbes, BusinessWeek,
Time, CNN, Fortune, and Financial Times. He is a Fellow of the Indian
National Academy of Engineering and a foreign member of the US
National Academy of Engineering.
Life lessons from Narayana Murthy
N
R Narayana Murthy, chief mentor and chairman of the board, Infosys
Technologies, delivered a pre-commencement lecture at the New York
University (Stern School of Business) on May 9. It is a scintillating
speech, Murthy speaks about the lessons he learnt from his life and
career. We present it for our readers:
Dean
Cooley, faculty, staff, distinguished guests, and, most importantly,
the graduating class of 2007, it is a great privilege to speak at your
commencement ceremonies.
I thank Dean Cooley and Prof Marti
Subrahmanyam for their kind invitation. I am exhilarated to be part of
such a joyous occasion. Congratulations to you, the class of 2007, on
completing an important milestone in your life journey.After
some thought, I have decided to share with you some of my life
lessons. I learned these lessons in the context of my early career
struggles, a life lived under the influence of sometimes unplanned
events which were the crucibles that tempered my character and reshaped
my future.
I would like first to share some of these
key life events with you, in the hope that these may help you
understand my struggles and how chance events and unplanned encounters
with influential persons shaped my life and career.
Later, I will share the deeper life
lessons that I have learned. My sincere hope is that this sharing will
help you see your own trials and tribulations for the hidden
blessings they can be.
The first event occurred when I was a graduate student in Control Theory at IIT, Kanpur, in India.
At
breakfast on a bright Sunday morning in 1968, I had a chance
encounter with a famous computer scientist on sabbatical from a
well-known US university.
He was discussing exciting new
developments in the field of computer science with a large group of
students and how such developments would alter our future. He was
articulate, passionate and quite convincing. I was hooked. I went
straight from breakfast to the library, read four or five papers he
had suggested, and left the library determined to study computer
science.
Friends, when I look back today at that
pivotal meeting, I marvel at how one role model can alter for the
better the future of a young student. This experience taught me that
valuable advice can sometimes come from an unexpected source, and
chance events can sometimes open new doors.
The next event that left an indelible
mark on me occurred in 1974. The location: Nis, a border town between
former Yugoslavia, now Serbia, and Bulgaria. I was hitchhiking from
Paris back to Mysore, India, my home town.
By the time a kind driver dropped me
at Nis railway station at 9 p.m. on a Saturday night, the restaurant
was closed. So was the bank the next morning, and I could not eat
because I had no local money. I slept on the railway platform until
8.30 pm in the night when the Sofia Express pulled in.
The only passengers in my compartment
were a girl and a boy. I struck a conversation in French with the
young girl. She talked about the travails of living in an iron curtain
country, until we were roughly interrupted by some policemen who, I
later gathered, were summoned by the young man who thought we were
criticising the communist government of Bulgaria.
The
girl was led away; my backpack and sleeping bag were confiscated. I
was dragged along the platform into a small 8x8 foot room with a cold
stone floor and a hole in one corner by way of toilet facilities. I was
held in that bitterly cold room without food or water for over 72
hours.
I had lost all hope of ever seeing the outside world again,
when the door opened. I was again dragged out unceremoniously, locked
up in the guard's compartment on a departing freight train and told
that I would be released 20 hours later upon reaching Istanbul. The
guard's final words still ring in my ears -- "You are from a
friendly country called India and that is why we are letting you go!"
The journey to Istanbul was lonely, and I was starving.
This long, lonely, cold journey forced me to deeply rethink my
convictions about Communism. Early on a dark Thursday morning, after
being hungry for 108 hours, I was purged of any last vestiges of
affinity for the Left.
I concluded that entrepreneurship, resulting in large-scale
job creation, was the only viable mechanism for eradicating poverty
in societies.
Deep in my heart, I always thank the Bulgarian guards for
transforming me from a confused Leftist into a determined,
compassionate capitalist! Inevitably, this sequence of events led to
the eventual founding of Infosys in 1981.
While these first two events were
rather fortuitous, the next two, both concerning the Infosys journey,
were more planned and profoundly influenced my career trajectory.
On a chilly Saturday morning in winter 1990, five of the
seven founders of Infosys met in our small office in a leafy Bangalore
suburb. The decision at hand was the possible sale of Infosys for the
enticing sum of $1 million. After nine years of toil in the then
business-unfriendly India, we were quite happy at the prospect of
seeing at least some money.
I let my younger colleagues talk about
their future plans. Discussions about the travails of our journey
thus far and our future challenges went on for about four hours. I had
not yet spoken a word.
Finally, it was my turn. I spoke about
our journey from a small Mumbai apartment in 1981 that had been beset
with many challenges, but also of how I believed we were at the
darkest hour before the dawn. I then took an audacious step. If they
were all bent upon selling the company, I said, I would buy out all my
colleagues, though I did not have a cent in my pocket.
There was a stunned silence in the
room. My colleagues wondered aloud about my foolhardiness. But I
remained silent. However, after an hour of my arguments, my colleagues
changed their minds to my way of thinking. I urged them that if we
wanted to create a great company, we should be optimistic and
confident. They have more than lived up to their promise of that day.
In the seventeen years since that day,
Infosys has grown to revenues in excess of $3.0 billion, a net income
of more than $800 million and a market capitalisation of more than
$28 billion, 28,000 times richer than the offer of $1 million on that
day.
In the process, Infosys has created
more than 70,000 well-paying jobs, 2,000-plus dollar-millionaires and
20,000-plus rupee millionaires.
A final story:
On a hot summer morning in 1995, a Fortune-10 corporation had
sequestered all their Indian software vendors, including Infosys, in
different rooms at the Taj Residency hotel in Bangalore so that the
vendors could not communicate with one another. This customer's
propensity for tough negotiations was well-known. Our team was very
nervous.
First of all, with revenues of only around $5 million, we were minnows compared to the customer.
Second, this customer contributed
fully 25% of our revenues. The loss of this business would
potentially devastate our recently-listed company.
Third, the
customer's negotiation style was very aggressive. The customer team
would go from room to room, get the best terms out of each vendor and
then pit one vendor against the other. This went on for several
rounds. Our various arguments why a fair price -- one that allowed
us to invest in good people, R&D, infrastructure, technology and
training -- was actually in their interest failed to cut any ice with
the customer.
By 5 p.m. on the last day, we had to make a decision right on the spot whether to accept the customer's terms or to walk out.
All
eyes were on me as I mulled over the decision. I closed my eyes, and
reflected upon our journey until then. Through many a tough call, we
had always thought about the long-term interests of Infosys. I
communicated clearly to the customer team that we could not accept
their terms, since it could well lead us to letting them down later.
But I promised a smooth, professional transition to a vendor of
customer's choice.
This was a turning point for Infosys.
Subsequently, we created a Risk Mitigation Council which
ensured that we would never again depend too much on any one client,
technology, country, application area or key employee. The crisis was a
blessing in disguise. Today, Infosys has a sound de-risking strategy
that has stabilised its revenues and profits.
I want to share with you, next, the life lessons these events have taught me.
1. I
will begin with the importance of learning from experience. It is
less important, I believe, where you start. It is more important how
and what you learn. If the quality of the learning is high, the
development gradient is steep, and, given time, you can find yourself
in a previously unattainable place. I believe the Infosys story is
living proof of this.
Learning from experience, however, can
be complicated. It can be much more difficult to learn from success
than from failure. If we fail, we think carefully about the precise
cause. Success can indiscriminately reinforce all our prior actions.
2. A second theme concerns the power
of chance events. As I think across a wide variety of settings in my
life, I am struck by the incredible role played by the interplay of
chance events with intentional choices. While the turning points
themselves are indeed often fortuitous, how we respond to them is
anything but so. It is this very quality of how we respond
systematically to chance events that is crucial.
3. Of course, the mindset one works
with is also quite critical. As recent work by the psychologist, Carol
Dweck, has shown, it matters greatly whether one believes in ability
as inherent or that it can be developed. Put simply, the former view, a
fixed mindset, creates a tendency to avoid challenges, to ignore
useful negative feedback and leads such people to plateau early and
not achieve their full potential.
The latter view, a growth mindset,
leads to a tendency to embrace challenges, to learn from criticism and
such people reach ever higher levels of achievement (Krakovsky, 2007:
page 48).
4. The fourth theme is a
cornerstone of the Indian spiritual tradition: self-knowledge. Indeed,
the highest form of knowledge, it is said, is self-knowledge. I
believe this greater awareness and knowledge of oneself is what
ultimately helps develop a more grounded belief in oneself, courage,
determination, and, above all, humility, all qualities which enable
one to wear one's success with dignity and grace.
Based on my life experiences, I can
assert that it is this belief in learning from experience, a growth
mindset, the power of chance events, and self-reflection that have
helped me grow to the present.
Back in the 1960s, the odds of my
being in front of you today would have been zero. Yet here I stand
before you! With every successive step, the odds kept changing in my
favour, and it is these life lessons that made all the difference.
My young friends, I would like to end
with some words of advice. Do you believe that your future is
pre-ordained, and is already set? Or, do you believe that your future
is yet to be written and that it will depend upon the sometimes
fortuitous events?
Do you believe that these events can
provide turning points to which you will respond with your energy and
enthusiasm? Do you believe that you will learn from these events and
that you will reflect on your setbacks? Do you believe that you will
examine your successes with even greater care?
I
hope you believe that the future will be shaped by several turning
points with great learning opportunities. In fact, this is the path I
have walked to much advantage.
A final word: When, one day,
you have made your mark on the world, remember that, in the ultimate
analysis, we are all mere temporary custodians of the wealth we
generate, whether it be financial, intellectual, or emotional. The best
use of all your wealth is to share it with those less fortunate.
I believe that we have all at some time
eaten the fruit from trees that we did not plant. In the fullness of
time, when it is our turn to give, it behooves us in turn to plant
gardens that we may never eat the fruit of, which will largely benefit
generations to come. I believe this is our sacred responsibility, one
that I hope you will shoulder in time.
Thank you for your patience. Go forth and
embrace your future with open arms, and pursue enthusiastically your
own life journey of discovery!
The amazing Infosys story
Members
of the Infosys start-up team in the early days. Chairman and Chief
Mentor, the iconic N R Narayana Murthy, is seen at far left
Down memory lane
Infosys Technologies is one of the few Indian companies that has changed the way the world looks at India.
No
longer is India a land of snake charmers and beggars. It is now
perceived as an economic giant to reckon with, bursting with brilliant
software engineers and ambitious entrepreneurs. And Infosys is an
symbol of India's information technology glory.
Infosys
has many firsts to its name: The first Indian firm to list on Nasdaq;
the first to offer stock options to its employees. . . The company
crossed $1 billion in revenues for the first time in 2004. TCS,
however, was the first Indian IT firm to top $1-bn in revenues.
Infosys
is an organisation that inspires awe and respect, globally. On July
2, Infosys completed 25 years in existence. This is its amazing
success story, illustrated by rare photographs.
Infosys founders (Left to right): Nandan Nilekani,
S Gopalakrishnan, N R Narayana Murthy, K Dinesh, N S Raghavan and S D Shibulal.
How Infosys was born
The idea of Infosys was born
on a morning in January 1981. That fateful day, N R Narayana Murthy
and six software engineers sat in his apartment debating how they
could create a company to write software codes.
Six months later, Infosys was
registered as a private limited company on July 2, 1981. Infosys
co-founder N S Raghavan's house in Matunga, northcentral Mumbai, was
its registered office. It was then known as Infosys Consultants Pvt
Ltd.
What was the company's starting capital?
US $250. Murthy borrowed $250
from his wife Sudha to start the company. The front room of Murthy's
home was Infosys' first office, although the registered office was
Raghavan's home.
Who were Murthy's six friends who joined hands to launch Infosys?
Nandan Nilekani, N S Raghavan, S Gopalakrishnan, S D Shibulal, K Dinesh and Ashok Arora.
Are all of them still the founding directors?
Murthy is currently chief
mentor and chairman while Nilekani is the chief executive officer and
managing director. Gopalakrishnan, Shibulal and Dinesh are directors.
Raghavan retired as joint managing director in 2000. He is currently
the chairman of the advisory council of the N S Raghavan Centre for
Entrepreneurial Learning at the Indian Institute of Management,
Bangalore.
Ashok Arora worked for the
company till 1988 and left after selling his shares in the then
unlisted company back to the other promoters. He moved to the United
States where he now works as a consultant.
(Left to right) Sudha Murthy, N R Narayana Murthy, Nandan Nilekani and Rohini Nilekani, a journalist at Bombay magazine before their wedding, at a picnic near Bangalore in the early 1980s.
'Murthy was always broke''Murthy
was always broke. He always owed me money. We used to go for dinner
and he would say, 'I don't have money with me, you pay my share, will
return it to you later.' For three years, I maintained a book of
Murthy's debts to me. No, he never returned the money and I finally
tore it up after our wedding. The amount was a little over Rs 4,000.'
An excerpt from Sudha Murthy's reminiscences. She is the wife of Infosys founder N R Narayana Murthy.
Those days, Murthy wanted to do
something with his life, but he had no money. Murthy was married to
Sudha on February 10, 1978, while he was working with Patni
Computers.
In 1981, it was Murthy's idea
to start Infosys. Murthy had a dream, and no money. So Sudha gave him
Rs 10,000, which she had saved without his knowledge. Murthy and his
six colleagues started Infosys in 1981.
No, it was not in Bangalore,
but in Pune that Infosys set up its first office, in 1981. The house
that Murthy and Sudha bought with a loan became the first Infosys
office. As Murthy ran Infosys, Sudha took up a job as a systems
analyst with the Walchand Group of Industries to support their
household.
In 1983, Infosys moved to Bangalore when it got its first client, Data Basics Corporation from the United States.
The first mini computer
arrived at Infosys in 1983. It was a Data General 32-bit MV8000. The
very next year Infosys switched from mini to main frames with a CAMP
application for a Data Basics customer.
Narayana Murthy (middle row, second from left), S D Shibulal (top
row, left) and Nandan Nilekani (top row, extreme right, partly hidden)
with friends at picnic near Bangalore, early 1980s.
A huge struggle, day in and day out
When
they began moving ahead with Infosys, the founders -- Murthy,
Nilekani, Shibulal and the others -- took a firm decision -- that their
wives would not be involved in the running of the company.
So after Murthy, it was
Nilekani and his wife Rohini who moved to Bangalore. But they had no
house to stay. So the Nilekanis stayed with the Murthys at their
Jayanagar home in Bangalore.
Rohini took care of Murthy's
son as Sudha helped write software programmes for Infosys. There was
no luxury, only struggle, day and night. They had no car, no phone.
Murthy later recalled that it was not the luxuries of life, but the
passion to create something new and innovative that made them keep
going on and on and on.
Despite the struggles, the Murthys, the Nilekanis and the other partners took time out for picnics in Bangalore.
The
Murthys' Jayanagar house in Bangalore, where Nandan Nilekani and his
wife stayed after they moved to the city to pursue their dream: Infosys
The crisis, and how Infosys began to grow
The first years of Infosys
were not smooth. Most of the founders -- Murthy, Nilekani, Dinesh,
Shibulal and Gopalkrishnan -- were into writing codes. And they wanted
to make an impact in the American market.
So Infosys got its first joint
venture partners in Kurt Salmon Associates. Gopalakrishnan, who had
spent time working in the United States, was the public face of the
KSA-Infosys venture in America. But the joint venture collapsed in
1989, leaving Infosys in the lurch.
Gopalakrishnan relives the
memories of those days. "We had nothing after eight years of trying to
bring up a company. Those who studied with us had cars and houses,"
he says.
The collapse of the KSA joint
venture led Infosys to its first crisis. The company was on the verge
of collapse. One of the founder-partners -- Ashok Arora -- was
dejected with the way the company was going, and decided to quit.
The others did not know what to
do. But Murthy had the courage of conviction. 'If you all want to
leave, you can. But I am going to stick (with it) and make it,' Murthy told them.
The other partners -- Nilekani, Gopalakrishnan, Shibulal, Dinesh and Raghavan -- decided to stay.
And thus began to germinate the seeds of Infosys' enormous growth.
N R Narayana Murthy in New York to sign an agreement with American Express.
The Nasdaq listing
It is said that Infosys began getting big breakthroughs from the US market.
How? The initial foray of
Infosys into the US market was through a company called Data Basics
Corp as a 'body-shop' or on-site developer of software for US
customers. Later, Infosys formed a joint venture with Kurt Salmon
Associates to handle marketing in the United States.
Even today, Infosys derives
about two-thirds of its revenue from the United States, serving
corporate clients like Reebok, Visa, Boeing, Cisco Systems, Nordstrom
and New York Life.
Infosys is the largest publicly
traded IT services exporter in India, providing services to 315 large
corporations, such as GE and Nortel, predominantly in the USA.
It was the first Indian company to list on the Nasdaq stock exchange in 1999.
And the other Infosys group companies?
- Progeon Ltd: The Infosys BPO arm.
- Infosys Technologies (Shanghai) Company Limited: The company's base in China.
- Infosys Australia Pty Ltd: Infosys' Australian venture.
- Infosys Consulting Inc: The company's foray into the consulting business.
The early Infosys team brainstorming at Murthy's home in Bangalore, early 1980s.
Now, it's a global IT giant!
Today, Infosys provides consulting and IT services to clients globally.
It uses a low-risk,
global delivery model to accelerate schedules with a high degree of
time and cost predictability. The company has over 53,000 employees
worldwide.
The Infosys corporate headquarters is located in Bangalore. Its US headquarters is in Fremont, California.
Infosys has office
across the globe: Atlanta, Bangalore, Beijing, Bellevue, Bridgewater,
Bhubaneswar, Brussels, Charlotte, Chennai, Detroit, Frankfurt,
Fremont, Hong Kong, Hyderabad, Lake Forest, Lisle, London, Mangalore,
Mauritius, Melbourne, Milano, Mohali, Mumbai, Mysore, New Delhi,
Paris, Phoenix, Plano, Pune, Quincy, Reston, Shanghai, Sharjah,
Stockholm, Stuttgart, Sydney, Thiruvananthapuram, Tokyo, Toronto,
Utrecht, Zurich.
CEO Nandan Nilekani spent a lot of his time writing software code in the company's early days.
25 years sheer determination, and growth
In the last 25 years, Infosys has been growing and growing.
Today, Infosys is
India's second largest software exporter. It now enjoys a strong
liquidity position with over Rs 6,000 crore (Rs 60 billion) in assets,
including surplus cash.
During 2005-2006, the
Infosys internal cash accruals more adequately covered working capital
requirements, capital expenditure and dividend payments leaving a
surplus of Rs 1,612 crore (Rs 16.12 billion).
As on March 2006, the
company had liquid assets including investments in liquid mutual funds
of Rs 4,463 crore (Rs 44.63 billion). This collectively makes the
liquidity strength of Infosys at Rs 6,078 crore (Rs 60.78 billion).
Where are these funds parked?
These funds have been
deposited with banks, highly rated financial institutions and in
liquid mutual funds. Infosys last year derived an average yield of
4.48 per cent (tax free) from these investments.
The company received Rs
647 crore (Rs 6.47 billion) on exercise of stock options by employees
and cash equivalents including liquid mutual funds increased by Rs
1,612 crore during 2005-06.
Key milestones
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Year of Incorporation : |
1981 |
Became a public limited company in India : |
1992 |
ISO 9001/TickIT Certification : |
1993 |
Attained SEI-CMM Level 4 : |
1997 |
Listed on NASDAQ : |
1999 |
Crossed $100 million in annual revenues : |
1999 |
Attained SEI-CMM Level 5 : |
1999 |
Crossed $400 million in revenues : |
2001 |
Crossed $ half a billion in revenues : |
2002 |
Crossed $ billion in revenues : |
2004 |
Crossed $ 2 billion in revenues : |
2006 |
The fantastic Infosys campus
The Infosys campus in Bangalore.
The sprawling Infosys campus in Bangalore is the symbol of India's infotech growth.
It is a campus where a company's beliefs are unique:
- 'We want to create wealth legally and ethically.'
- 'We believe a good night's sleep is worth a billion dollars.'
- 'A small percentage of a growing pie is better than a large part of a shrinking pie.'
These are the tenets that have helped India's largest software company grow into a well respected organisation.
Infosys Technologies Ltd
is, arguably, the brightest gem in corporate India's crown. An IT
giant, having crossed the billion-dollar revenue mark on April 13,
2004, the company now rubs shoulders with the world's biggest and the
best. Let us take a look at its development centres at Bangalore and
Mysore
From
'Best Corporate House' to 'Best Employer,' the software major has won
hundreds of accolades during its 23-year-old existence.
Recently,
the American Society for Training and Development has rated Indian IT
major Infosys Technologies Ltd as the world's best in employee
training and development.
Infosys
provides consulting and IT services to clients globally from its
impressive development centres in Bangalore and Mysore.
Let us take a virtual tour of the campuses…
(Above)
The Corporate Block-- also called the Customer Care Center -- at the
Bangalore development centre, houses 8 conference rooms for the use of
customers. The ground floor has a large conference room with the
capacity to seat a 100 people, and the largest video wall in Asia. It
also houses an experience theatre, which explains the history of
software, talks about the Infosys story and what customers think about
working with Infosys.
Infosys uses a low-risk global delivery model to accelerate schedules with a high degree of time and cost predictability.
The
company's headquarters are in Bangalore, but its footprints can be
found across the globe: Fremont, California (the US headquarters),
Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Hong Kong,
Japan, the Netherlands, Singapore, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom,
and United Arab Emirates.
A
view of the Education & Research block, 1,15,000 sq. ft. in size
includes a library of 30,000 sq. ft; class rooms to seat 200 people at
one time and labs to seat 150 people. This entire complex can train
1000 software engineers at a given time. Once again this is reputedly
the single largest location training / education center for a software
services company, in the world.
N
R Narayana Murthy is the founder, Chairman and Chief Mentor of
Infosys, while Nandan M Nilekani is the company's Managing Director,
President and CEO.
Infosys already has almost 28,000 employees worldwide and it plans to hire another 10,000 more during this fiscal year.
Most of the strategies of the company are finalised at its development centre in Bangalore.
The room, at the Bangalore development centre, where the Infosys brains conceptualise their global strategies.
These are some of the milestones in Infosys journey:
- Incorporated in 1981
- Went public in India in 1992
- Attained SEI-CMM Level 4 in 1997
- Listed on the Nasdaq in 1999
- Crossed $100 million in annual revenues in 1999
- Attained SEI-CMM Level 5 in 1999
- Crossed $0.5 billion in revenues in 2002
- Crossed $1 billion in revenues in 2004
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The swimming pool at Infosys's development centre in Bangalore.
Infosys is one of the 8 Indian companies to figure among the top 1,000 companies listed by BusinessWeek magazine. Infosys is ranked 727th with a market capitalization of $7.61 billion).
The lobby of Infosys's development centre in Mysore.
The
software major posted a net profit of Rs 394.47 crore (Rs 3.944
billion) for the quarter ended June 30, 2004 as compared to Rs 278.12
crore (Rs 2.781 billion) for the first quarter ended June 30, 2003.
The
company's total income increased from Rs 1,114. 42 crore (Rs 11.144
billion) in the Q1 2003 to Rs 1,489.38 crore (Rs 14.893 billion) in the
quarter ended June 30, 2004.
A view of Infosys's Mysore development centre.
Infosys
is second, after Tata Consultancy Services, among the Top 20 IT
Software and Service exporters in India, according to the National
Association of Software and Services Companies.
Wipro,
Satyam, HCL Technologies, Patni Computer Systems, iFlex Solutions,
Mahindra British Telecom, Polaris Software and Digital Globalsoft Ltd,
make up the top 10.
The oldest building on its Bangalore campus, Infosys's 'Heritage
Building' sports a distinctly different feel and architecture.
Completed in 1994, spread over 5 acres of land it has a built up area
of 150,000 sq. ft.
The
company has launched a 'campus connect' campaign which aims at
improving the quality of graduates from engineering colleges in the
country to coincide with IT industry requirements.
Infosys
has committed Rs 10 crore (Rs 100 million) for Campus Connect in the
first phase for training students, faculty and providing industry
inputs into the curricula for 30 engineering colleges across the
country.
The
Food Court at the Bangalore centre is an hyperbolic parabola,
designed on the lines of the Sydney Harbor Opera House. Around 4000
quadratic equations were crunched to get the structure right. It houses
three food courts and a gymnasium, a clothing store, a bank and other
facilities for the employees.
Infosys
chief N R Narayana Murthy feels that the infrastructure problems
plaguing Bangalore can be solved through a government-industry
partnership.
His comments follow Wipro Chairman Azim Premji's hint that Wipro may move out of the city due to its bad infrastructure.
Murthy
admits that the Bangalore's roads and traffic are bad and need to be
addressed soon, but says: "A couple of years ago, it took three hours
to reach the Electronic City from the city. Then, the government and
industry solved the problem."
The
Infosys gym at its Bangalore centre is one of Asia's largest where
most of the Infosys employees work out after office hours and on
weekends. Other facilities include pool / snooker tables and dartboards
apart from a swimming pool, a sauna and a Jacuzzi. Infosys is a fun
place to work in.
Infosys set up a centre in the Bhavani block of the Technopark campus in Thiruvanthapuram in Kerala in 2003.
Besides
its Bangalore and Mysore centres, the company also has development
centres at Mangalore, Mohai, Pune, Hyderabad, Bhubaneswar in India.
The
company store, where Infosys employees get a variety of
Infosys-branded merchandise. An outlet of Indus League, the store stocks
clothes of the Indigo Nation and Scullers lines, as well as select
products from Microsoft. This one is at the Bangalore development
centre.>
A $1-BILLION GIANT:
On April 13, Infosys Technologies Ltd, India's information technology
services giant, touched $1 billion in annual revenues for the first
time.
Which meant it was time to party. To celebrate the landmark achievement, Infosys had a huge bash on its campus.
It
was an evening of fun and dance and a time to reiterate the feeling
of being just the second Indian IT services company to do so (since
then, Wipro too has joined the elite billion-dollar club).
Last year, the Mumbai-based Tata Consultancy Services announced that it had touched the billion-dollar mark in revenues.
Infosys's
revenues of $1.06 billion came at a 31 per cent growth over the
previous year, while profits rose to $285 million, an increase of 30 per
cent.
"Today, we have the required size, brand, compelling value
proposition and ambition to build the next generation software
services and consulting company," declared Infosys COO S
Gopalakrishnan proudly while announcing the results.
A BASH TO REMEMBER: Infosys pulled out all the stops to make sure this would be a party to remember.
The
invite -- in shades of yellow, asking the recipient to join the
'Billion Dollar Day' celebration -- went out to not just employees, but
also customers, shareholders, ex-Infoscions, corporate leaders and the
media.
A
special moment was also planned as Infosys's very first international
customer, Donn Liles, President of Data Basics Corp also joined the
celebrations.
Although
singing sensation Enrique Iglesias was also in town, Infoscions
preferred to spend the evening listening to Bollywood playback singer
Kumar Sanu (left) and Alka Yagnik (n
INFY'S HAPPY, AND GROWING, TRIBE:
Infosys has over 25,634 employees today. Many turned up in T-shirts in
the colour of the company -- light blue -- to celebrate.
They had every reason to. Apart from the company's milestone, Infosys made sure that its employees too were rewarded.
The
company decided to give a one-time bonus of $1,000 to each employee
along with a specially designed Titan watch, which shows world time and
a T-shirt with a billion-dollar-mark logo.
Last
year alone, Infosys added 11,900 employees, and the average age of an
employee at Infosys is 26. Analysts say that they are confident that
Infosys can manage its growing flock.
"The business model and the management are capable of handling these
issues. Infosys has proven that it can handle large-scale employee
training and retention issues," says an analyst with a Mumbai-based
equity research firm.
THE MEN WHO DARED TO DREAM:
Infosys is run by a rather close-knit team whose most public face is
co-founder and chairman of the company, N R Narayana Murthy.
The
Infosys legend is by now well known. Murthy and five others, who
worked together at Patni Computers in Pune, decided to form Infosys in
1981.
Each
member of the team brings a specific and rather diverse skill set to
the company. S Gopalakrishnan, the deputy managing director and the
chief operating officer, is seen as the technical brain, while Murthy is
the strategist and the public face of the company.
Nandan
Nilekani is the managing director and chief executive officer and in
the last three years has been groomed by Murthy to become the public
face of the company.
Another
key member is T V Mohandas Pai who is the director of finance and
administration and chief financial officer of Infosys. He joined Infosys
in 1994 and was a member of the committee which formulated and
instituted the guidelines for the employee stock option plan for the
first time in India.
Infosys's
strong management team is seen as its biggest strength. Analysts say
it is the reason why the company has been able to stay ahead of its
peers and grow consistently.
YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET: Clearly, Infosys is on a roll In
its guidance for the forthcoming fiscal, Infosys has forecast that
revenues would rise 30-31 per cent and earnings by around 27 per cent.
The
aggressive forecast, say analysts, is a sign that the company is not
deterred by the recent protests against outsourcing that have swept the
United States and that its growth cannot be rolled back by market
disruptions.
Infosys
expects growth in the future to come from not just scaling the
existing business, but also nurturing the business process outsourcing
subsidiary of the company, Progeon, apart from the newly set up US arm,
Infosys Consulting.
"Infosys is becoming a monolith, a juggernaut. There's nothing that
can possibly go wrong for it in the future. Last fiscal year was the
toughest to get through and if they got through that so well, they can
get through anything. There is no void or flaws in their revenue model
for anyone to pick into," says R Ravi, an analyst with IDBI Capital.
Narayana Murthy's dream for the future
India's software giant Infosys Technologies Limited has entered its 25th year of existence. In these 25 years, the company has scaled many a peak, making the nation proud of it.
N R Narayana Murthy, Chairman, Infosys , however, has plans to turn the company into a bigger, stronger, and global player.
At an analysts' meet, held
to mark the silver jubilee celebrations of Infosys in Hyderabad, Murthy
spoke about his future for the company.
Here's the speech that he delivered.
We start our 25th
year celebrations today. It is indeed laudable that we have run this
marathon so far. Several happy thoughts come to my mind as I stand here.
But, the most important one is our meeting in January 1981.
How Infosys began
It was a wintry morning in
January 1981 when seven of us sat in my apartment, and created Infosys.
We had lots of hope, confidence, commitment, energy, enthusiasm, hard
work, passion and a sense of sacrifice.
We were short of one thing, money. We managed to put together just $250 in seed capital.
We never dreamt about size,
revenues and profits. Our dream, right from day one, was to build a
corporation that was, above all things, respected.
From the beginning, our team
was unique in our commitment to a strong value system. We believed in
putting the interest of the company ahead of our own interest. We
believed in legal and ethical business.
We believed in respect and long-term gratification. And each of us brought complementary strengths to the company.
'Entrepreneurship is a marathon'
To me, entrepreneurship is a
marathon. I believe that the key to a successful corporation is
longevity � my heroes are companies like IBM, Levers, and GE. These
firms have shown growth in earnings quarter after quarter, for a long
time.
Infosys itself has seen
consistent growth in revenue and profitability for over 49 quarters,
since it got listed in India. We have institutionalized performance and
accountability in our systems and processes, and through the
empowerment of our employees. Let me talk about some of the generic
lessons we have learnt.
The name of the game is:
predictability of revenues; sustainability of the prediction;
profitability; and a good de-risking model. Measurement is key to
improvement.
Value system
A sound value system is what
differentiates long-term players from others. Putting the
corporation's interest ahead of personal interest will advance personal
goals in the long term.
No single person is
indispensable. It is important that you give challenging engagements to
deserving people, whether they are young or new in the organization.
Youth and empowerment are the keys to scalability and longevity.
Every situation is what you
make it to be. Confidence is half the battle, and leadership is making
the impossible look possible. Speed, imagination and excellence in
execution are the only three context-invariant and time-invariant
attributes for success.
Trust of employees, investors
The trust of employees is
the most important ingredient for successful leadership. To gain the
trust of people, there is no more powerful leadership style than
leadership by example. The world respects performance and action, not
rhetoric.
It is better to obsolete our
own innovations, rather than allowing our competitors to do it. A
healthy sense of paranoia and respect for competition is an absolute
must for success. It prevents complacency, and ensures that the
organization is learning continuously. The ultimate test for customer
satisfaction is making our customer look good in front of his / her
customer.
I have realized that if you
want to look smarter, you must surround yourself with people smarter
than you. Everybody needs incentives to perform. Money is not the only
motivator; respect, dignity, fairness and inclusiveness are essential
to get the best out of employees. Every employee must feel an inch
taller when talking about the company.
Being transaction-oriented in
every decision avoids groupism. An emphasis on meritocracy and
data-orientation enhances the confidence of employees in the fairness
of the corporation. We believe in the adage, In God we trust, everybody
else brings data to the table.
To retain the trust of your
investors, it is better to under promise and over-deliver. Investors
understand that every business will have ups and downs, and want us to
level with them at all times. They want us give them bad news
pro-actively and as early as possible. Therefore, When in doubt,
disclose.
We have realized that we
should never take any decision with the stock price in mind. The day we
do this, we will ruin the company. Finally, we have realized that we
can shortchange investors if we want to make Rs 1 crore (Rs 10
million), but if we want to make Rs 1,000 crore (Rs 10 billion), we
have to play the game straight and honest.
We have realized that
longevity requires that we follow every law of the land, even if we do
not agree with it. We should work hard to change laws that hurt the
progress of the corporation.
Unless we make a difference
to the society and earn their trust, we cannot be long-term players.
Therefore, in everything we do, we must ask ourselves whether we are
adding value to the society around us, regardless of where we are -- US
or India.
'What I want Infosys to achieve in 25 years'
What do I want to see this
company achieve in the next 25 years? I want this to be a place where
people of different races, nationalities and religious beliefs work
together, in an environment of intense competition but utmost courtesy
and dignity, to add greater and greater value to our customers, day
after day. Just like we have received respect in India, I want Infosys
to be the most respected company in every country that it operates.
But, to achieve these dreams,
we have to be in existence over the next 250 years. I know we can do
this for the following reasons:
We
have an extraordinary leader in Nandan (Nandan Nilekani, Infosys CEO),
a man of great vision, values and dynamism. He is ably supported by
the best management team and professionals in the industry.
- We
have a depth of leaders within the organisation, with over 500 leaders
being part of our leadership training and mentoring programme.
- The
de-risking strategy at Infosys ensures that there is a backup for
every position, and that decision-making is participatory across the
company. In other words, it is not one person, but a team that looks at
every decision. Thus, at Infosys, it is the leadership of ideas and
meritocracy that drives every decision.
- Every decision is supported by a strong portfolio of systems, processes and technology.
- The value system of the company is time and context invariant.
-
We will continue to have the mindset of a small company even as we grow and scale.
-
Finally, and most importantly, I see youth, the feel-good factor and confidence around me.
This is why I am confident Infosys will continue to serve the society as a long-term player.
Thank you.
N R Narayana Murthy
Narayana Murthy's 5 tips for success
The
stock prices of leading Indian tech companies have been battered in
recent weeks. Investors are skittish over rising inflation and higher
interest rates that could tap the brakes on growth globally. But there's
no sign India's companies themselves are losing strength.
Indeed,
Infosys Technologies, Tata Consultancy Services , Wipro , and others
continue to disrupt the $600 billion global tech-services industry.
Infosys said on April 14 that per-share earnings in the current quarter
would rise as much as 27% on a sales increase of as much as 33%.
With that as a backdrop, N R Narayana Murthy the
founder and longtime chairman of Infosys, stopped in New York on June
15 on something of a farewell tour. After 25 years at the helm, he's
stepping out of his executive role and handing the baton to the next
generation of leaders.
BusinessWeek Senior Writer Steve Hamm interviewed Murthy at the company's offices in Rockefeller Center. Here's an edited version of their conversation:
You started Infosys and built it to what it is today. Why have you decided to retire from your role as executive chairman?
I
set the rule that we should all retire at 60 so we can give
opportunities to younger people to play a role in shaping the future of
the company. I believe in the power and importance of youth. I gave up
my CEO position four years ago so Nandan Nilekani could become the CEO.
He will continue in the CEO role.
Until
now, both of us were running the company. Now I'll become the
non-executive chairman, primarily responsible for managing the board,
for governance functions. I won't be involved in running the company in
an executive capacity.
When
you look back on the early formative days of the company, did you ever
imagine that Infosys would become such an important company in the
worldwide tech industry?
No,
not really. We started out as seven people in 1981, with $250. We had
just one customer. Last year we closed at $2.5 billion. We have 52,000
employees and a market cap of about $20 billion. We never imagined we
would come this far.
However,
we were certain of one thing, and that is our value system. In fact,
when we sat down in the bedroom of my apartment in 1981, we discussed
for four hours what our objective should be. Should it be revenues,
profits, market capitalization?
No,
we said it should be none of those. We will seek respect from every
one of the stakeholders. My view was if we sought respect we'd
automatically do the right thing by each of them. We'd satisfy our
customers, be fair to our employees, and follow the finest principles
with respect to investors, we would not violate laws, and, finally, we'd
make a difference to society.
And then, I said, automatically you'll get revenues and profits and all that.
Why
have Infosys and the other leaders of the Indian tech industry had
such a dramatic and powerful effect on the worldwide tech industry?
It is simply because we are becoming more and more relevant to our customers and we are having greater and greater impact.
Why?
For two fundamental reasons. We have helped our customers reduce the
cycle time in designing and implementing new systems that reflect the
changing marketplace and the new business rules. By reducing cycle
time, we have ensured that the people in the corporation that use these
IT systems are that much more enthusiastic about the flexibility of
the corporation to keep pace with the changes in the marketplace.
Earlier,
what was happening was it took three or four years to implement a
system and there was a low level of probability of success. Because of
the high level of programming talent in India, because of our focus on
process excellence, and because of the power of leveraging the 24-hour
work day, we have been able to take up large projects and complete them
with reduced cycle time with the requisite quality.
People said, 'Now we can go think of new business initiatives to go after.'
The second thing we have done is we're able to give more value for money. Both of these things matter a lot.
Your
success is having a dramatic impact on the $600 billion tech services
industry-compressing revenues and margins. Will there be a lot more
disruption for that industry? Is still just the beginning? Or are
things settling out?
The
fact that IBM, Accenture, etc have started scaling up their operations
in India indicates there's more juice left in this. What we're doing
is applying the principle of the global delivery model to activities
that people thought were not possible hitherto.
For
instance, we believe that 35% of the consulting effort can be done in
India, such as proposal preparation, presentation preparation,
research, and analytics. Similarly, in the case of our business process
outsourcing organization, equity research for a major European bank can
be done in Bangalore. The bank is getting better value for money, and
they're able to compress the cycle time.
So, I'd say, the best is yet to come in leveraging the power of India -- both by the Indians and the multinationals.
Are the multinationals getting with it now?
They
have started focusing in the recent past so they're still a few years
behind Infosys. I'm sure they'll accelerate. But the fact that they're
accelerating will force us to innovate more.
There are five elements of success. They are:
- Openness to learn: Openness to subordinate your ego to take ideas from others.
- Second, meritocracy: The best ideas are adopted and implemented using data to arrive at the best decision.
- Third, speed: Assuring you do things faster compared to yesterday and last quarter.
- Fourth, imagination: You continually bring better ideas and better innovation to the table.
- And
finally, excellence in execution: That is implementation of these
great ideas with a higher level of excellence today than yesterday.
I
tell my colleagues that there is no guarantee we will be in business
five or 10 years from now. The only guarantee is the opportunity for us
to use these five attributes.
If
we embrace them, we'll be in play five and 10 years from now. But the
day we forget these, we'll disappear like dew on a sunny morning.
In
the United States there's a lot of concern about the effect of what
the Indian companies are doing on U.S. industry and U.S. workers. Do
you have advice for Americans on how to respond to this?
I'm
a very small person so I don't say I have any advice. However, let me
say this: In the last 25 years the concept of globalization has become
more and more pronounced. The world is becoming flatter and flatter and
flatter.
I
define globalization as sourcing material from where it is cheapest,
talent from where it best available, producing where it is most
cost-effective, and selling where the markets are -- without being
constrained by national boundaries.
Anybody
can leverage the power of globalization. It's not the monopoly of one
geography. As long as corporations recognize this and leverage the
power; if they see the entire globe as their arena and leveraging the
best talent for each task from the different geographies; and if they
operate as a global enterprise rather than a multinational enterprise,
then there is a great future for all of us.
What could go wrong for India and the Indian economy?
The
first is, if we don't improve our infrastructure in the next couple of
years, it will be very difficult to be effective as a manufacturing
nation. The software industry may create jobs for the educated people,
but unfortunately it can't create jobs for the not-so-educated people.
That's where manufacturing comes in.
If
we don't improve the infrastructure, we won't be able to create jobs
for the less-educated people. And that will create a strong negative
current of dissatisfaction in the country. It could have profound
effects.
The
second area where there could be impact is on globalization. There is
so much discussion on the small number of jobs that have been lost in
the U.S. because of Indian companies.
But
the effect of globalization in India has been much larger. For
instance, we had our own auto industry. The cars were not very good.
But, still, they were being made in India. Today, we have GM, Toyota ,
everybody and his brother in India assembling lots of cars. Many of
these companies import parts from other countries. As a result, the
opportunity for job creation has not been as much as if the parts were
made in India.
Similarly,
we had our own computer industry. They were not the best. But our
people were producing them. When the famous computer companies came to
India, we lost a lot of jobs. The same happened with the global soft
drink companies.
Probably
2 million or 3 million Indians have lost their jobs. So, do you keep
all the multinationals out of India. Or, because 250 million
middle-class Indians have benefited, do you embrace it? My view is we
should embrace these global corporations, we should accept
globalization, because it has benefited the large majority.
Now,
maybe I have contrarian views. As globalization becomes more
pronounced, if we're not able to create more jobs for the less-educated
people, we could then say globalization has not worked.
People
are saying that in the U.S. already, even though the data says
something else -- that corporations are becoming more efficient and
nimble and able to compete in other countries better. The same thing
could happen in India.
How to build a great company
N
R Narayana Murthy , Chairman of the Board and Chief Mentor, Infosys
Technologies, outlines the key ingredients to building a great company
and the role of 'compassionate capitalism' in society.
Narayana Murthy is a co-chair of the Annual Meeting of the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland.
Excerpts from an interview with the Infosys Chairman:
You are fond of using the term 'compassionate capitalism.' What does this mean in the context of India?
As
I look back on the idealism of my youth, I realise that a socialist
system will not succeed as a system, because people need opportunities,
incentives and competition in order to better themselves. This is the
essence of capitalism.
Embellish the spirit of capitalism with fairness, decency, transparency and honesty, and the result is compassionate capitalism.
Compassionate capitalism is extremely important for every society, in general, and for developing countries, in particular.
In
India, where the divide between the haves and have-nots is very large,
the only way we can reduce this divide is by embracing compassionate
capitalism.
To what do you attribute the success of Asia's multinationals?
The
first factor is the work ethic. By and large, there is tremendous
focus on hard work, pride in the company, and loyalty to the company in
Asia. This focus exists in the West too, and that's how they have built
great companies.
However, I see less emphasis in the West on such a work ethic these days.
Second,
there is a spirit of family in Asian companies. This means working as a
team, showing concern for your fellow employees, making sacrifices for
each other's benefit, and identifying with the common cause of the
company.
How has Infosys responded to the tsunami that struck South-East Asia?
Infosys
has contributed Rs 50 million to the Prime Minister's Fund. In
addition, we requested employees to contribute a day's salary on a
voluntary basis. We did something similar after 9/11.
We were the first Indian company and one of the few in the world outside the United States to contribute to the Firemen's Fund.
The
Infosys Foundation has donated clothing, medicine and food items to
the victims of the tsunami. Some of our people have gone to affected
areas and helped people to improve processes for better management of
aid distribution.
Some
companies sell to the bottom of the economic pyramid, to customers
with relatively little spending power. What is the business case for
multinational companies to target this market?
About
80 per cent of the global population lives in the developing world.
These people have low disposable income. Thus, taken as individuals,
their buying strength is small but, as a group, they have an enormous
potential as a market.
On
the other hand, the markets in the developed world are getting
saturated and growth is coming down. Hence, if multinational companies
were to design products that are inexpensive and cater to this vast
segment of low-disposable income consumers, then there is tremendous
growth opportunity both in revenues and profits for MNCs.
Business
can address social challenges through public-private partnerships.
Again, what is the incentive for companies to partner with the public
sector?
Public-private
partnerships in developing countries like India are very important
because a company cannot prosper on a sustainable basis, unless it
makes a difference to the context in which it operates.
By
making a difference to the society in which they operate, companies
create goodwill in the society, and become friends of the society.
This
responsibility is even greater in the case of multinationals, since
there is a mistaken belief that multinationals do not care for the
context, and are there only to plunder the society where they operate.
When
the vast majority of the poor believe that there is a positive impact
on them because of a public-private partnership involving
multinationals, it is likely to create tremendous goodwill towards these
companies.
What is the key to building a great company?
First
of all, we need good leadership. I don't know of a single great
company that has not had good leaders. Great leaders raise the
aspirations of their followers; they make people more confident,
energetic and enthusiastic.
Such leaders make people embrace the adage: a plausible impossibility is better than a convincing possibility.
People,
who are motivated by great leaders, dream big, make sacrifices and
achieve miracles. It is not sufficient just to have great leaders. We
need a mechanism to identify, train, empower and mentor successive
generations of leaders.
Such leadership training and mentoring has to become the responsibility of the current generation of leaders.
Second,
we have to create a grand, noble vision which elevates the energy,
enthusiasm and self-esteem of everyone in the company while ensuring
that everybody sees a benefit in following the vision.
Third,
a company has to benchmark itself on a global scale in every area
including sales, production, human resources, R&D and finance. It
creates an open and confident environment where first-raters recruit
first-raters.
Fourth,
a great company continuously measures and improves the following
attributes: meritocracy, fairness, justice, openness, speed,
imagination and excellence in execution.
Finally, a great company practices an enduring value system, and follows the finest system of corporate governance.
The essence of leadership
A
leader is an agent of change, and progress is about change. In the
words of Robert F Kennedy, 'Progress is a nice word; but change is its
motivator.'
Leadership
is about raising the aspirations of followers and enthusing people
with a desire to reach for the stars. For instance, Mahatma Gandhi
created a vision for independence in India and raised the aspirations
of our people.
Leadership
is about making people say, 'I will walk on water for you.' It is
about creating a worthy dream and helping people achieve it.
Robert
Kennedy, summed up leadership best when he said, 'Others see things as
they are and wonder why; I see them as they are not and say why not?'
Adversity
A
leader has to raise the confidence of followers. He should make them
understand that tough times are part of life and that they will come
out better at the end of it. He has to sustain their hope, and their
energy levels to handle the difficult days.
There
is no better example of this than Winston Churchill . His courageous
leadership as prime minister for Great Britain successfully led the
British people from the brink of defeat during World War II. He raised
his people's hopes with the words, 'These are not dark days; these are
great days -- the greatest days our country has ever lived.'
Never
is strong leadership more needed than in a crisis. In the words of
Seneca, the Greek philosopher, 'Fire is the test of gold; adversity, of
strong men.'
Values
The
leader has to create hope. He has to create a plausible story about a
better future for the organisation: everyone should be able to see the
rainbow and catch a part of it.
This
requires creating trust in people. And to create trust, the leader has
to subscribe to a value system: a protocol for behavior that enhances
the confidence, commitment and enthusiasm of the people.
Compliance
to a value system creates the environment for people to have high
aspirations, self esteem, belief in fundamental values, confidence in
the future and the enthusiasm necessary to take up apparently difficult
tasks. Leaders have to walk the talk and demonstrate their commitment
to a value system.
As
Mahatma Gandhi said, 'We must become the change we want to see in the
world.' Leaders have to prove their belief in sacrifice and hard work.
Such behavior will enthuse the employees to make bigger sacrifices. It
will help win the team's confidence, help leaders become credible, and
help create trust in their ideas.
Enhancing trust
Trust
and confidence can only exist where there is a premium on
transparency. The leader has to create an environment where each person
feels secure enough to be able to disclose his or her mistakes, and
resolves to improve.
Investors
respect such organisations. Investors understand that the business
will have good times and bad times. What they want you to do is to
level with them at all times. They want you to disclose bad news on a
proactive basis. At Infosys, our philosophy has always been, 'When in
doubt, disclose.'
Governance
Good
corporate governance is about maximising shareholder value on a
sustainable basis while ensuring fairness to all stakeholders:
customers, vendor-partners, investors, employees, government and
society.
A
successful organisation tides over many downturns. The best index of
success is its longevity. This is predicated on adhering to the finest
levels of corporate governance.
At
Infosys, we have consistently adopted transparency and disclosure
standards even before law mandated it. In 1995, Infosys suffered losses
in the secondary market. Under Indian GAAP (generally accepted
accounting principles), we were not required to make this information
public. Nevertheless, we published this information in our annual
report.
Fearless environment
Transparency
about the organisation's operations should be accompanied by an open
environment inside the organisation. You have to create an environment
where any employee can disagree with you without fear of reprisal.
In such a case, everyone makes suggestions for the common good. In the end everyone will be better off.
On
the other hand, at Enron, the CFO was running an empire where people
were afraid to speak. In some other cases, the whistle blowers have
been harassed and thrown out of the company.
Managerial remuneration
We
have gone towards excessive salaries and options for senior management
staff. At one company, the CEO's employment contract not only set out
the model of the Mercedes the company would buy him, but also promised a
monthly first-class air ticket for his mother, along with a cash bonus
of $10 million and other benefits.
Managerial remuneration should be based on three principles:
Not surprisingly, this company has already filed for bankruptcy.
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Fairness with respect to the compensation of other employees;
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Transparency with respect to shareholders and employees;
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Accountability with respect to linking compensation with corporate performance.
Thus,
the compensation should have a fixed component and a variable
component. The variable component should be linked to achieving
long-term objectives of the firm. Senior management should swim or sink
with the fortunes of the company.
Senior
management compensation should be reviewed by the compensation
committee of the board, which should consist only of independent
directors. Further, this should be approved by the shareholders.
I've
been asked, 'How can I ask for limits on senior management
compensation when I have made millions myself?' A fair question with a
straightforward answer: two systems are at play here. One is that of the
promoter, the risk taker and the capital markets; and the other is
that of professional management and compensation structures.
One
cannot mix these two distinct systems, otherwise entrepreneurship will
be stifled, and no new companies will come up, no progress can take
place. At the same time, there has to be fairness in compensation:
there cannot be huge differences between the top most and the bottom
rung of the ladder within an organisation.
PSPD model
A
well run organisation embraces and practices a sound
Predictability-Sustainability-Profitability-Derisking (we call this the
PSPD model at Infosys) model. Indeed, the long-term success of an
organisation depends on having a model that scales up profitably.
Further,
every organisation must have a good derisking approach that
recognises, measures and mitigates risk along every dimension.
Integrity
Strong
leadership in adverse times helps win the trust of the stakeholders,
making it more likely that they will stand by you in your hour of need.
As leaders who dream of growth and progress, integrity is your most
wanted attribute.
Lead
your teams to fight for the truth and never compromise on your values.
I am confident that our corporate leaders, through honest and
desirable behaviour, will reap long-term benefits for their
stakeholders.
Two mottos
In conclusion, keep in mind two Sanskrit sentences: Sathyannasti Paro Dharma (there is no dharma greater than adherence to truth); and Satyameva jayate (truth alone triumphs). Let these be your motto for good corporate leadership.
Narayan Murthy’s Speech at New York University
[N
R Narayan Murthy, chief mentor and chairman of the board, Infosys
Technologies, delivered a pre-commencement lecture at the New York
University ( Stern School of Business) on May 9. It is a scintillating
speech, Murthy speaks about the lessons he learnt from his life and
career.]
Dean
Cooley, faculty, staff, distinguished guests, and, most importantly,
the graduating class of 2007, it is a great privilege to speak at your
commencement ceremonies.
I
thank Dean Cooley and Prof Marti Subrahmanyam for their kind
invitation. I am exhilarated to be part of such a joyous occasion.
Congratulations to you, the class of 2007, on completing an important
milestone in your life journey.
After
some thought, I have decided to share with you some of my life
lessons. I learned these lessons in the context of my early career
struggles, a life lived under the influence of sometimes unplanned
events which were the crucibles that tempered my character and reshaped
my future.
I
would like first to share some of these key life events with you, in
the hope that these may help you understand my struggles and how chance
events and unplanned encounters with influential persons shaped my
life and career.
Later,
I will share the deeper life lessons that I have learned. My sincere
hope is that this sharing will help you see your own trials and
tribulations for the hidden blessings they can be .
The
first event occurred when I was a graduate student in Control Theory
at IIT, Kanpur , in India . At breakfast on a bright Sunday morning in
1968, I had a chance encounter with a famous computer scientist on
sabbatical from a well-known US university.
He
was discussing exciting new developments in the field of computer
science with a large group of students and how such developments would
alter our future. He was articulate, passionate and quite convincing. I
was hooked. I went straight from breakfast to the library, read four
or five papers he had suggested, and left the library determined to
study computer
science.
Friends,
when I look back today at that pivotal meeting, I marvel at how one
role model can alter for the better the future of a young student. This
experience taught me that valuable advice can sometimes come from an
unexpected source, and chance events can sometimes open new doors.
The
next event that left an indelible mark on me occurred in 1974. The
location: Nis , a border town between former Yugoslavia, now Serbia,
and Bulgaria. I was hitchhiking from Paris back to Mysore , India , my
home town.
By
the time a kind driver dropped me at Nis railway station at 9 p.m. on a
Saturday night, the restaurant was closed. So was the bank the next
morning, and I could not eat because I had no local money. I slept on
the railway platform until 8.30 pm in the night when the Sofia Express
pulled in.
The
only passengers in my compartment were a girl and a boy. I struck a
conversation in French with the young girl. She talked about the
travails of living in an iron curtain country, until we were roughly
interrupted by some policemen who, I later gathered, were summoned by
the young man who thought we were criticizing the communist government
of Bulgaria .
The
girl was led away; my backpack and sleeping bag were confiscated. I
was dragged along the platform into a small 8×8 foot room with a cold
stone floor and a hole in one corner by way of toilet facilities. I was
held in that bitterly cold room without food or water for over 72
hours.
I
had lost all hope of ever seeing the outside world again, when the
door opened. I was again dragged out unceremoniously, locked up in the
guard’s compartment on a departing freight train and told that I would
be released 20 hours later upon reaching Istanbul. The guard’s final
words still ring in my ears — ” You are from a friendly country called
India and that is why we are letting you go!”
The
journey to Istanbul was lonely, and I was starving. This long, lonely,
cold journey forced me to deeply rethink my convictions about
Communism. Early on a dark Thursday morning, after being hungry for 108
hours, I was purged of any last vestiges of affinity for the Left.
I
concluded that entrepreneurship, resulting in large-scale job
creation, was the only viable mechanism for eradicating poverty in
societies.
Deep
in my heart, I always thank the Bulgarian guards for transforming me
from a confused Leftist into a determined, compassionate capitalist!
Inevitably, this sequence of events led to the eventual founding of Infosys in 1981.
While
these first two events were rather fortuitous, the next two, both
concerning the Infosys journey, were more planned and profoundly
influenced my career trajectory.
On
a chilly Saturday morning in winter 1990, five of the seven founders
of Infosys met in our small office in a leafy Bangalore suburb. The
decision at hand was the possible sale of Infosys for the enticing sum
of $1 million. After nine years of toil in the then
business-unfriendly India , we were quite happy at the prospect of
seeing at least some money.
I
let my younger colleagues talk about their future plans. Discussions
about the travails of our journey thus far and our future challenges
went on for about four hours. I had not yet spoken a word.
Finally,
it was my turn. I spoke about our journey from a small Mumbai
apartment in 1981 that had been beset with many challenges, but also of
how I believed we were at the darkest hour before the dawn. I then
took an audacious step. If they were all bent upon selling the
company, I said, I would buy out all my colleagues, though I did not
have a cent in my pocket.
There
was a stunned silence in the room. My colleagues wondered aloud about
my foolhardiness. But I remained silent. However, after an hour of my
arguments, my colleagues changed their minds to my way of thinking. I
urged them that if we wanted to create a great company, we should be
optimistic and confident. They have more than lived up to their
promise of that day.
In
the seventeen years since that day, Infosys has grown to revenues in
excess of $3.0 billion, a net income of more than $800 million and a
market capitalisation of more than $28 billion, 28,000 times richer than
the offer of $1 million on that day.
In
the process, Infosys has created more than 70,000 well-paying jobs,
2,000-plus dollar-millionaires and 20,000-plus rupee millionaires.
A
final story: On a hot summer morning in 1995, a Fortune-10 corporation
had sequestered all their Indian software vendors, including Infosys,
in different rooms at the Taj Residency hotel in Bangalore so that the
vendors could not communicate with one another. This customer’s
propensity for tough negotiations was well-known. Our team was very
nervous.
First of all, with revenues of only around $5 million, we were minnows compared to the customer.
Second,
this customer contributed fully 25% of our revenues. The loss of this
business would potentially devastate our recently-listed company.
Third,
the customer’s negotiation style was very aggressive. The customer
team would go from room to room, get the best terms out of each vendor
and then pit one vendor against the other. This went on for several
rounds. Our various arguments why a fair price — one that allowed us to
invest in good people, R&D, infrastructure, technology and
training — was actually in their interest failed to cut any ice with
the customer.
By 5 p.m. on the last day, we had to make a decision right on the spot whether to accept the customer’s terms or to walk out.
All
eyes were on me as I mulled over the decision. I closed my eyes, and
reflected upon our journey until then. Through many a tough call, we
had always thought about the long-term interests of Infosys. I
communicated clearly to the customer team that we could not accept their
terms, since it could well lead us to letting them down later. But I
promised a smooth, professional transition to a vendor of customer’s
choice.
This was a turning point for Infosys.
Subsequently,
we created a Risk Mitigation Council which ensured that we would never
again depend too much on any one client, technology, country,
application area or key employee. The crisis was a blessing in
disguise. Today, Infosys has a sound de-risking strategy that has
stabilized its revenues and profits.
I want to share with you, next, the life lessons these events have taught me.
1.
I will begin with the importance of learning from experience. It is
less important, I believe, where you start. It is more important how
and what you learn. If the quality of the learning is high, the
development gradient is steep, and, given time, you can find yourself in
a previously unattainable place. I believe the Infosys story is living
proof of this.
Learning
from experience, however, can be complicated. It can be much more
difficult to learn from success than from failure. If we fail, we think
carefully about the precise cause. Success can indiscriminately
reinforce all our prior actions.
2.
A second theme concerns the power of chance events. As I think across a
wide variety of settings in my life, I am struck by the incredible
role played by the interplay of chance events with intentional choices.
While the turning points themselves are indeed often fortuitous, how
we respond to them is anything but so. It is this very quality of how
we respond systematically to chance events that is crucial.
3.
Of course, the mindset one works with is also quite critical. As
recent work by the psychologist, Carol Dweck, has shown, it matters
greatly whether one believes in ability as inherent or that it can be
developed. Put simply, the former view, a fixed mindset, creates a
tendency to avoid challenges, to ignore useful negative feedback and
leads such people to plateau early and not achieve their full potential.
The latter view, a growth mindset, leads to a tendency to embrace
challenges, to learn from
criticism and such people reach ever higher levels of achievement
(Krakovsky, 2007: page 48).
4.
The fourth theme is a cornerstone of the Indian spiritual tradition:
self-knowledge. Indeed, the highest form of knowledge, it is said, is
self-knowledge. I believe this greater awareness and knowledge of
oneself is what ultimately helps develop a more grounded belief in
oneself, courage, determination, and, above all, humility, all qualities
which enable one to wear one’s success with dignity and grace.
Based on my life experiences, I can assert that it is this belief in
learning from experience, a
growth mindset, the power of chance events, and self-reflection that
have helped me grow to the present.
Back
in the 1960s, the odds of my being in front of you today would have
been zero. Yet here I stand before you! With every successive step, the
odds kept changing in my favor, and it is these life lessons that made
all the difference.
My
young friends, I would like to end with some words of advice. Do you
believe that your future is pre-ordained, and is already set? Or, do
you believe that your future is yet to be written and that it will
depend upon the sometimes fortuitous events?
Do
you believe that these events can provide turning points to which you
will respond with your energy and enthusiasm? Do you believe that you
will learn from these events and that you will reflect on your setbacks
? Do you believe that you will examine your successes with even
greater care?
I
hope you believe that the future will be shaped by several turning
points with great learning opportunities. In fact, this is the path I
have walked to much advantage.
A
final word: When, one day, you have made your mark on the world,
remember that, in the ultimate analysis, we are all mere temporary
custodians of the wealth we generate, whether it be financial,
intellectual, or emotional. The best use of all your wealth is to share
it with those less fortunate.
I
believe that we have all at some time eaten the fruit from trees that
we did not plant. In the fullness of time, when it is our turn to give,
it behooves us in turn to plant gardens that we may never eat the
fruit of, which will largely benefit generations to come. I believe this
is our sacred responsibility, one that I hope you will shoulder in
time.
Thank
you for your patience. Go forth and embrace your future with open
arms, and pursue enthusiastically your own life journey of discovery!
Known
as "The Bill Gates of Asia," N.R. Narayana Murthy is a founder and now
Chairman and Chief Mentor of Infosys Technologies Ltd., a global
consulting and IT services company based in India which employs more
than 17,000 people worldwide. A billionaire who lives simply in a
modest apartment, Murthy frequently speaks out on his belief in the
need for corporate social responsibility.
India is the fastest growing
domestic IT market in the world and is increasingly being used as the
"back office" of some of the world's largest companies. Gartner Fellow,
Bob Hayward, spoke with Mr. Murthy in Mumbai about India's current and
future position in the global IT marketplace.
Interview conducted 17 July 2003
Bob Hayward:
Mr. Murthy, you have likened
India to a family of two children: one gifted and the other less
privileged. Would you expand on that?
N.R. Narayana Murthy:
There are two Indias — urban
India where the child is informed about what's happening in the world
and rural India, where the child is hapless, undernourished and
uneducated. If we want to solve the problem of poverty in this country,
then we have to encourage the gifted child to make the whole family
better. Then it becomes the responsibility of the privileged to make
sure the rural child also gets benefits. That's what the politicians
must understand both here and in the world.
Hayward:
To extend on that, does the
government need to be market-driven, or should it be control-driven?
Murthy:
I firmly believe that the
role of government will have to be limited to areas that affect
citizens: defense, monetary policies, external affairs, internal
security. Most areas of economic activity must be left to the citizens.
However, in rural areas where the market is not developed, the
government should provide subsidy to the rural masses by way vouchers
which can be used in the marketplace. That way, there will be no
corruption. Citizens will have a choice to go to the best player
whether it is primary education or healthcare, and this will bring
fairness to the system.
Hayward:
Which are the technologies
and companies in the rich India that can have a beneficial impact on the
rural India?
Murthy:
I won't name any specific
company because that is not fair. I think every company, big or small,
has a responsibility to make sure that the benefits of IT percolate
down to the masses. This could be done by foundation activities or by
helping government develop better infrastructure and facilities. We
need to create case studies to show how technology can benefit the
masses.
For
example, Nasscom (India's National Association of Software and Service
Companies) conducted an experiment seven years ago when they put a
taxi driver in Bombay in touch with his family in Azamgarh, Uttar
Pradesh via videoconferencing. The joy on the faces of his family seeing
their relative on TV was something that is worth a million dollars. We
need to bring the power of IT, by way of new case studies to the
attention of people, politicians and bureaucrats alike.
Hayward:
Why don't we see tangible
benefits from the advancements made in IT by India translating into
better infrastructure?
Murthy:
I have often said that while
portfolio investments are good, they leverage the power of the Indian
entrepreneur. We need that, but more important is foreign direct
investment which comes as equity or long-term goals. If you want to let
FDI into India in a significant way, our people will have to create
visible signs of progress to create confidence in our foreign
investors, something that China is doing.
Hayward:
How important is IT right now in India's development?
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Murthy:
We all agree that IT reduces
cost and time-to-market and improves productivity. Once that is agreed
to, there is no doubt that IT has a very important role to play in
nation building. We've seen how IT has contributed significantly to
improving productivity in the US from 1.4 percent a couple of decades
ago to 2.5 percent now. Now, what should get more priority, IT or other
instruments of growth?
My view is, let the
government not put money into this. Let it, instead, make it very easy
for FDI to enter the country. As long as we control and are suspicious
of what comes in, as we still are, then it's unlikely we will get what
we want. The bottom line is, make it easy for those investments to
enter India, in whatever sector there is.
Hayward:
Why is the issue of whether
foreign direct investment is good for India or not still debated here?
Why is it still not resolved?
Murthy:
Actually, there are two
hilarious concepts in India. One is called MAFA—"Mistaking Articulation
For Accomplishment." The second is that when we say, "All is said and
done," what we really mean is, "Everything is said and nothing is
done." Like it or not, we are a debating society.
But just as other countries
like Brazil and China have done, we must say enough is enough, and now
is time for action. Otherwise, we will continue to a MAFA society.
Hayward:
Do you believe in the school
of thought that domestic industry is not supported enough and all
attention is given to exports? What is your advice to the domestic IT
industry in India?
Murthy:
Every company tries to
maximize its profits and revenue. In the G-8 countries, the opportunity
for revenue and profits is much higher than in India, so perhaps the
top few IT company here may focus primarily on the export market. But
it doesn't matter.
I say, let somebody else
look at the opportunity in India. We don't have to say that we will
focus on the domestic market to the exclusion of the export market. Let
a thousand flowers bloom. The right approach would be to let all
competent people succeed in all markets, domestic or global.
Hayward:
What can "India, Inc." do to
embrace IT, something that has not happened as much as in countries
such as China?
Murthy:
I think it is happening in
the last ten years. The Indian enterprises and even the government are
embracing IT much more warmly than ever before, and the reason is,
competition is increasing. There is a focus on productivity and
secondly, democracy is demanding more transparency and accountability
from the government.
Hayward:
But the difference is that
in India, there has to be a different justification for IT-induced
automation that reduces the number of jobs in a country with such a
large a population.
Murthy:
I am of the opinion that
every enterprise must operate at the highest level of productivity,
which means fewer and fewer people can produce more and more wealth.
With better productivity, salaries will increase, workers will have
more disposable income that they will spend in the market. In the end,
by enhancing productivity, you are actually creating more jobs.
It's a myth here that in
employing more people and resourcing productivity per worker, we are
making the economy better for our citizens. The right way would be to
improve productivity.
Hayward:
Is the contribution of IT in
improving the living standard of a large chunk of the Indian people
being recognized as it should be?
Murthy:
In the last couple of years,
India has done a very good job in IT. But we are still a nation of one
billion people, so a million or so working in IT or related areas
doesn't get much notice. That's where we need to create better
enthusiasm by creating visible signs of growth such as world-class
airports and highways. We owe it to our children because we want them
to be much more confident about their country.
Hayward:
In your interaction with
politicians, what do you see are the major challenges in making them
aware of the potential of this sector in India?
Murthy:
Leadership is first of all
about courage. Courage to dream big. Courage to take tough decisions.
Second, it is the ability to raise the aspirations of people. Third, it
is to be open-minded and accepting of great ideas from different
countries and cultures across the world. And fourth, like I earlier
said, it is to recognize that there are two Indias — rural and urban —
and to work toward the growth of both of them.
Hayward:
What needs to be done to bring out that change?
Murthy:
Once again, that takes me to
what I mentioned earlier — the visible signs of growth. Let me give
you an example: When Baby Noor, the two-year-old Pakistani child came
to India (for successful open-heart surgery in July 2003), I was happy
to see the news splashed across the newspapers. I think we need a few
more examples like that. Not only will it change our leaders mindset,
it will create confidence in Pakistan.
The point is, we need more
such signs of growth, like that Nasscom experiment and the fishermen of
Pondicherry using data from U.S. satellites to enhance their catch. In
every movie theater, if we can show a few of these examples, the
common citizen will have confidence in India and will say that India is
on the move now.
Hayward:
I may be a little
pessimistic, but there is a negativism and cynicism in the Indian media
that if the IT industry is growing, there must be some problem?
Murthy:
You have information I do
not, so I can't argue with you. But let me tell you, I was in Delhi and
my friend Prannoy Roy (president of NDTV — New Delhi Television —
which will soon launch English-language and Hindi news channels in
India) took me to his studio. I saw these enthusiastic guys and I was
highly impressed. If we use that enthusiasm, we can beat anybody in the
world.
When a lot of my friends
went to IBM, when they set up in India, people said it would be the end
for my company. But I said that if I can't fight multinational
corporations in India, how can we fight them in their own backyard?
These multinationals bring a lot of value to India. With their human
resources and other policies, we have to play the game their way. I am
very hopeful.
Hayward:
Recently, politicians and
labor representatives in developed economies are proposing "backlash"
laws against Indian IT-based services companies meant to limit the use
of offshore development and business process outsourcing. What do you
think should be the strategy of the IT industry to address that right
now?
Murthy:
Globalization is about
producing where it is most cost effective, about sourcing capital from
where it is cheapest and about selling it where it is most profitable.
We should not be constrained by international backlash.
A smart journalist in
Australia asked me a question at a press conference: "You guys are
taking all our jobs to India. You should be thrown out." I told him
that I use an LG refrigerator at home in India. I drink Pepsi and Coke
though we have our own Indian drinks. I use a GM car when we have a
vibrant automobile industry. I use Cisco routers and a Toshiba tablet
PC which are imported. So do you think we should throw all these
companies out? I gave him the positive side of all this.
Prior to 1991, we all felt
exactly the same way as that young journalist. Initially, it was a very
painful phase for our Indian companies, but at the end of it, we
became stronger. At the end of the day, the consumers benefited the
most, and even the minority that suffer in the short run will benefit
at the end of the day.
Hayward:
Where do you see global IT going in the next five years?
Murthy:
I think IT will focus more
on enhancing productivity in the home. So far we've limited ourselves
to enhancing productivity in the workplace. Thanks to increasing
computing power, I believe IT will move to ubiquitous computing.
Hayward:
Do you think India will move
from using existing technology to inventing new technologies?
Murthy:
It will happen. Let's
remember that the concept of a free market is still new in India. We
are not accustomed to leading from the front. We have just 15 years
compared to 200 years elsewhere in terms of an industrial revolution.
You need to have a little more patience with India, but it will happen.
Hayward:
There are indications that
IT will be a driving force taking India into the league of developed
nations by 2020. What's your vision of what India will be like then?
Murthy:
I have great respect for our
president, Abdul Kalam, and his vision of making India a developed
nation by 2020 is a great one. My view is, IT alone will not be able to
do that. We need world-class manufacturing. We need world-class
financial services, healthcare, education, etc. Only then can we make
progress and become a great nation. IT alone cannot do that. It will
definitely be a driver, a case study of India's potential.
Whenever I am down, I
remember what the late Robert Kennedy once said, which he borrowed from
George Bernard Shaw: "Most people see things as they are and wonder
why. I see things that never were and say, why not."
Once our leaders start with
this mindset, the solution is very simple. We have to see beyond the
constraint, using it as an opportunity. It's all in the mind.
A leader for an equitable India — N.R. Narayana Murthy
We
live in extraordinary times. Never before in the last three centuries
has India received the kind of attention that she is getting today.
Whichever
conference I attend in the world, India’s growth is always talked
about and the country mentioned along with China. There are umpteen
books written about India.
People
ask me about the secret sauce for India’s success in software and BPO.
Taxi drivers in places like New York, London and Sao Paulo ask me
about how India has managed to attract the attention of the world.
N.R.Narayana Murthy
The
figures substantiate these perceptions. We have become a
trillion-dollar economy. Our exports have doubled in the last three
years. Rupee is becoming stronger by the day.
In
July, we added 8.4 million new mobile telephone subscribers. Our FDI
this year will be around $25 billion, five times of what it was two
years ago.
New
airports are being built in major cities. In Delhi, one sees work on
the expansion of metro wherever one goes. An Indian, Mukesh Ambani, was
the richest person in the world for a week, and remains among the top
five in the world. The list is endless.
This
is the time for us to consolidate this progress, work harder and
smarter, and bring about an inclusive growth. We have to bring the
benefits of our economic growth to make life better for all Indians,
not just the elite as it has happened so far.
This
is possible if we focus on improving infrastructure and agricultural
productivity and moving people away from agriculture to low-tech
manufacturing in rural and semi-urban areas.
All
of these are possible if we break away from our traditional mindset,
stop denying that we have problems, become open to new ideas and
possibilities, and create a culture of high performance.
In
my opinion, openness to new ideas, ability to learn from people who
have performed better than us, openness to admit problems and to accept
that there is room for improvement are important attributes of an
effective leader.
Every
year, I write on various aspects of leadership. This time, I will
write about how such changes in mindset are taking place in the country
from the top to the bottom.
I
will give some examples of how openness to new ideas is enhancing the
image of this country. I will describe a few examples of how rigidity
and adherence to the old mindset at certain levels of bureaucracy is
blurring that image.
The
mindset to accept that we have problems is crucial to our progress. In
my opinion, this change in the mindset is more important than the
progress we see in our economy, in our physical infrastructure or in
our stock markets.
This openness
stems from self-confidence. This openness is what will help us to
accept challenges and solve the problems rather than being in a state
of denial that our leaders were traditionally used to.
For
the first time in the last 40 years, I see a few of our leaders
confident enough to accept that we indeed have problems in basic areas
of education, healthcare and nutrition, that other nations have
performed better than us and that we will solve our problems by working
hard and smart.
At
the recently-concluded Asia Business Council (ABC) meeting in New
Delhi, my foreign CEO friends from Asia, Europe and the US were very
impressed with the openness of the Prime Minister, Rahul Gandhi, Montek
Singh Ahluwalia and Kamal Nath.
In
every one of these meetings, our leaders were gracious, modest,
confident, used data to argue their points, and did not use
superlatives to describe India’s progress.
They
admitted that we have problems of income disparity, lack of basic
infrastructure and that we have a big job to do in primary education,
healthcare, nutrition and shelter.
The mindset to accept new ideas is important
My
interactions with our Central ministers indicate that this change is
becoming pervasive and that one no longer sees the ghost of the
argumentative Indian in our leaders as often as one did earlier. This is
the start of a great journey.
While
I see this mindset of openness taking root at the Central level, I
still see a challenge at the state levels. However, there are several
good examples of progressive and open mindset among ministers at the
state level too.
These
include Vasundhara Raje, Chief Minister of Rajasthan; Uma Bharati when
she was the CM of Madhya Pradesh; and Buddhadev Bhattacharjee, the CM
of West Bengal. D. B. Inamdar and H. D. Revanna come to mind when I
talk of open mindsets among ministers in Karnataka.
Inamdar
was the Information Technology Minister several years ago when the
board of governors of the Indian Institute of Information Technology,
Bangalore (IIITB) was solving the difficult problem of finding a
permanent home for IIITB.
But
for his proactive and open mindset to solve problems quickly using new
paradigms, I do not think we could have got such a beautiful home for
IIITB as it has today. Similarly, Revanna’s progressive policies and
quick decision-making helped Electronic City get the much-needed
substation to handle its power problems.
Raghunath
Mashelkar, former Director General of Council of Scientific and
Industrial Research (CSIR), often says that we fight a constant battle
between our mind, which is the engine of problem solving, and our
mindset, which is a set of beliefs and dogmas.
He
notes that the mindset prevents the mind from taking bold and
innovative decisions based on openness to data and facts. He believes
that only those minds that win the battle will make progress. I see a
slow movement towards winning this battle among our leaders.
While
I see a fundamental shift towards openness among most of our senior
bureaucrats, I do not see that percolating downwards. I will
demonstrate this with two examples. The first pertains to my
experiences with Shiv Shankar Menon, our current Foreign Secretary.
Menon
is one of the finest bureaucrats this country has produced. He is a
fine gentleman, courteous, always willing to help and is constantly on
the move to improve efficiency of his department. A couple of years
ago, the government had issued a 64-page passport but quickly stopped
that practice.
Last
year, I requested Menon to provide a 200-page passport to frequent
travellers like us so that we did not have to get new passports every
few months.
This
would also increase the validity of our visas, since many countries
require us to obtain new visas whenever we change the passport, New
Zealand being an example of this policy. I told him the 64-page
passport was not very convenient, as the frequency of travel abroad was
high in our industry and that we would be happy to pay the expenses needed for a 200-page passport.
Being
an extraordinarily openminded leader, he readily agreed and promised
me that we would have such a passport. He obviously and rightly
expected people in his department to handle this task.
A
few months later, I was informed that there would be a ceremony in
Bangalore where the minister of state for external affairs would give
me the first new jumbo passport. I was thrilled. But, when I received
the passport, I found that it was the same old 64-page passport!
The
officials present explained that it was not possible to produce a
200-page passport since the ministry press did not have a machine that
could stitch 200-pages! It is surprising that at a time when India
plans to land a satellite on the moon, we cannot import, if not
produce, a machine that can stitch 200 passport pages.
The
problem is just in the mindset of the other people within the same
department. This example shows how an extraordinary leader’s
initiatives can be derailed by the old mindset of a few people working
under the leader. This has to change.
I
will give you another example of our old mindset. A CEO of a very
famous Fortune 500 US company wanted to get an Indian visa to
participate in the Asia Business Council (ABC) meeting in New Delhi.
When
his office contacted the Indian Consulate General’s office in his
area, his secretary was told that he would have to leave his passport
with the Indian Consulate for 30 days to get a visa!
He
informed the ABC secretariat that his frequent travels would not allow
him to leave his passport for 30 days with the Indian Consulate, and
that he would not be able to attend the ABC conference.
Ronen
Sen, our ambassador in the US, came to know about this through a
Cabinet Minister in Delhi. He picked up the phone, called the CEO,
apologised and requested his staff to expedite the process. His
department immediately carried out the mandatory checks and issued a
five-year, multiple-entry visa, gratis, the same day.
I
heard endless praise for India from the CEO publicly that made the
country look good in front of ABC members whose companies have a total
market capitalisation of more than a trillion dollars.
This
is another powerful example of how some people within our government
institutions have still not adapted to the changed circumstances and
blur the good image of the country even though the top-level
bureaucrats have made tremendous efforts to bring about a new mindset
in their functioning.
If
we want more FDI, as the PM has indicated several times, we have to
make it comfortable for business leaders from abroad to visit India. We
cannot take refuge under the reciprocity issue, which is the argument
used by some junior bureaucrats to justify our procedures.
While
I am worried that the desire for openness has still not become
pervasive across all levels in our government institutions, I have come
across several examples of positive change among them.
The
proactiveness of the income tax department people at Bangalore in
introducing IT systems for filing income tax returns by our employees
electronically, the extraordinary work of the Software Technology Park
in being a catalyst to the IT industry all over the country, the
efficient officials of the customs department at Bangalore, and the
“under-promise-over-deliver” mindset of Maharashtra, Rajasthan and
Orissa government officials are all good examples of such an open
mindset that accepts that we can improve and takes steps to improve.
How does one instill in our people the openness to accept that one could be wrong and somebody else may have a better idea?
At
Infosys, we realised early enough that the best way to focus on the
solutions and to solve problems quickly is to start every new
transaction on a zero base, without any bias from previous transaction,
and to use data and facts to argue our case.
Such
an approach enhances the confidence of our youngsters in meritocracy,
in our fairness and in our desire to be inclusive. That is why, the
famous adage, “In God we trust, everybody else brings data to the
table,” is very popular at Infosys.